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Ignorant_Florist
Daycare Manager
Pipebomb Monkey

P: 06/21/2022 14:57 EST
   
sp0t wrote:
A Hasidic Jew with a parrot on his shoulder walks into a bar and the bartender asks "Hey, where'd you get that thing"
And the parrot says "Israel. They're running around all over the place."
That's some funny shit!
  
Ignorant_Florist
Daycare Manager
Pipebomb Monkey

P: 06/21/2022 15:01 EST
   
Drogon wrote:
I probably 'whine' in voice as much, if not more, than anyone else. Part of that is pure frustration with what I percieve as stupidity. Part of it is simply the way I play the game. I get very focused on the game to the point where my kids laugh at me and my wife gets irritated with me when I have a sharp intake of breath and tense up when an enemy enters my defensive zone (usually the ramp room or the spiral).

So, I'm very intense and when I talk then my voice and 'excitement' level is raised a lot. That pretty much automatically makes it seem I'm yelling at them. But I'll also say that when I tell them not to run around infected and don't come near me when infected, then they come right over and infect me...yeah I do get pissed off and my voice goes to the next level. I had that happen last night with a player, he apologized after saying he didn't know that, and we had some small conversations after that.

I'll also say that while I do yell at stupidity fairly often, I also am more complementary of good stuff than most players. I think players for healing me, I complement the team on keeping the defense from capping a flag in the spiral, and I complement the team for getting caps, particularly the first cap or when there isn't a lot score in the game.

I also get irritated when dying regularly. To O players its a fact of life. To me its a sign of failure, particularly if the O player got by me.
I hear ya, man. It *IS* an intense game. I was telling a new player the other night about how chaotic the game can be, and that it takes time to learn. But I was also encouraging them to stick with it, and that we all went through that learning phase. It's almost a right of passage (which is something I should bring up more often).

I don't mind whining in voice chat. I'll only nail someone for voice-chat violations if they are actually spamming stupid shit (like music, or audio memes, etc). Granted, we CAN mute players who do that, but it's also a form of game disruption, and that's where the rule violation comes into play.
  
Backalleybuttlove
Super Regular
Crack-Powered Capper

P: 06/21/2022 15:34 EST
    I got to say, I miss that Jimmy Gymgoer guy talking about "unclogging pipes" back at the garage with the guys wearing dickies. I think he even had like a patreon or something.

I think voice comms should definitely be used more, especially on offense. I think there are times I'm better off waiting in the spiral as scout or medic for a soldier for backup as opposed to just by myself. There is something cathartic about someone going "medic spiral" when you're on D and your perfectly timed nade explodes in their face as they enter the basement.
  
-[IBSC]-iLluSiON-
Daycare Manager
Killer Scout

P: 06/21/2022 16:06 EST
E: 06/21/2022 16:09 EST
   
Drogon wrote:
I probably 'whine' in voice as much, if not more, than anyone else. Part of that is pure frustration with what I percieve as stupidity. Part of it is simply the way I play the game. I get very focused on the game to the point where my kids laugh at me and my wife gets irritated with me when I have a sharp intake of breath and tense up when an enemy enters my defensive zone (usually the ramp room or the spiral).

So, I'm very intense and when I talk then my voice and 'excitement' level is raised a lot. That pretty much automatically makes it seem I'm yelling at them. But I'll also say that when I tell them not to run around infected and don't come near me when infected, then they come right over and infect me...yeah I do get pissed off and my voice goes to the next level. I had that happen last night with a player, he apologized after saying he didn't know that, and we had some small conversations after that.

I'll also say that while I do yell at stupidity fairly often, I also am more complementary of good stuff than most players. I think players for healing me, I complement the team on keeping the defense from capping a flag in the spiral, and I complement the team for getting caps, particularly the first cap or when there isn't a lot score in the game.

I also get irritated when dying regularly. To O players its a fact of life. To me its a sign of failure, particularly if the O player got by me.
It's all good - sometimes people need to be told what they're doing wrong or not doing at all and sometimes it comes out sounding as a whine. At least you use your mic. When I am whining, I try to do it off mic a bit. Can't help it but I find saving my potty-mouthed insults off mic are better and also its better when left unsaid in the server. I have a few pet peeves in TFC and some people tend to do them more often than not but at the end of the day it's just a game.
The one thing I'll say about your "whining" or anyone else's I suppose, is that sometimes the whine and/or statements take too long and end up clogging up the Comms for stuff that is more important. Sometimes voice chat gets out of control and if someone is continuously talking about stuff that doesn't help O or D, it hurts the team.
Mic conversations are ok, as long as the particular match allows it to be. If it's stagnant or a stalemate, I don't care about what people say. But if it's a close game or we're making a flag run and two people are arguing over the mic about something that doesn't matter to the whole team, it is kinda annoying. Depends on the "flow" of the game.
Yes, this is one of my 'pet peeves.' :)
I barely ever use mute. Only if they're spamming music or nonsense.
  
Ignorant_Florist
Daycare Manager
Pipebomb Monkey

P: 06/21/2022 17:11 EST
   
Backalleybuttlove wrote:
I got to say, I miss that Jimmy Gymgoer guy talking about "unclogging pipes" back at the garage with the guys wearing dickies. I think he even had like a patreon or something.

I think voice comms should definitely be used more, especially on offense. I think there are times I'm better off waiting in the spiral as scout or medic for a soldier for backup as opposed to just by myself. There is something cathartic about someone going "medic spiral" when you're on D and your perfectly timed nade explodes in their face as they enter the basement.
You should definitely play with me on your team, then. When I'm on O (which is pretty frequent these days), I like to "run blocker" as a Demoman. Meaning, I'll run in where Angels fear to tread, with the intent of destroying as much as possible, so that someone playing Medic or Scout has an easier time getting through and grabbing the flag.

I'm not terrible as a Medic, but I prefer to take that role when the server is about half full, because I'm not that good, either. I may be able to handle a few basement D players, if they aren't highly skilled... but when the server is full, I've got literally no chance. But knowing this, I adapt. I do much better as a Demo where I can run in, knowing I'll end up back in Respawn in short order, but I can deal some damage, take out an SG or two, AND on top of that, verbally tell my team what I saw down there.

That last part is why I will also try and sneak up to the pipes above the basement resupply, and hide. Doing that, I can give constant updates on what/who is where, and help the team that way. I'll take out a player or SG if I have the opportunity... and on occasion, blast someone with the flag up the elevator to help them escape with the flag.

Remember, always play to your strengths. Always communicate as best you can, and play for the good of the team.

That last part is why I absolutely HATE switching teams in the middle of the round. When I join and hit Auto Assign, I'm dedicated to that team for that round. Sure, I might have to go Spec something or other, but I prefer to rejoin the team I was assigned to at the start of the round. My personal score really doesn't matter, it's the team score I play for each round.
  
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