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Kwyjibo42
Super Regular
Cold Giver

P: 10/12/2014 05:42 EST
   
Poll: Should Fish be un-gagged?
Yes (17%)
No (56%)
Fuck fish and you too (22%)
I have no idea what you're talking about (6%)
Poll has ended (it ran for 7 days). 18 total votes.
My first poll, be gentle.
  
yousnoozeyoudie
Super Regular
Dizzy Capper

P: 10/12/2014 13:35 EST
    Not only should fish remained perma gagged, I would be perfectly happy with him being perma banned for sheer stupidity.  
Kwyjibo42
Super Regular
Cold Giver

P: 10/12/2014 14:28 EST
E: 10/12/2014 14:35 EST
    People can change.
http://youtu.be/QRBak_2X3Do?t=1m4s
  
Smoke
Super Regular
Soldier Flag
Defense

P: 10/12/2014 15:09 EST
   
Kwyjibo42 wrote:
I understand that there are limits to free speach, and there are times when you gotta show a player the door when they cross whatever line. On the other hand, Fish is a good player
This is what a lot of people can't seem to grasp. Free speech is subjective to where and what you are doing, if you're sitting in my living room and I ask you to watch your language and you turn around and tell me to go fuck myself, you bet your ass I'm showing you the door. Drippy is pretty liberal on what players can do or say on the server, and since Fish is perm-gagged he must have said something that really irritated Drippy or one of the other deities. For that fact he has been gagged instead of banned. You have obviously missed some of his team-chat tyrades he has gone off on, and then has the balls to take his free speech rhetoric and wave it like a banner. It is no different than when iudex wants to make suggestions to Drippy in how he should change his server.
The missing point is that it is Drippy's server and the bottom line is that if you don't like the rules of the game don't play, or play somewhere else. When Drippy says "deal with it" which he has in many MANY occasions, you're expected to do just that, to complain about it ie. to whine makes you a whiner... need I continue.
There is a reason this server has been around as long as it has, and why it's been the mainstay of TFC for probably the past 8 years now.
  
Kwyjibo42
Super Regular
Cold Giver

P: 10/12/2014 16:02 EST
E: 10/12/2014 16:50 EST
    You're right, I do not know what led to Fish being perma-gagged and vilified. I like to think it went like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnqUbz6Dpaw. I've never played with iudex however his threads are pretty hysterical and I can respect that. Personally I'd like Drippy to change the sky graphic to the vortex from True Detective https://i.imgur.com/rUPyuKu.jpg, but sadly this thread is not about me and my unrealistic desires.

From my own experience, Drippy and the Deities in power are fair and forgiving. Fish being gagged and not outright banned is a testament to that. I respect the rules but we are all just humans with creepy skeletons underneath and sometimes things get a little out of hand but we can learn and grow and achieve some sort of zen balance.
  
yousnoozeyoudie
Super Regular
Dizzy Capper

P: 10/12/2014 19:07 EST
    Fish has been un gagged 2-3 times and failed to be able to stfu with his retardedness. Pretty sure he will never be ungagged again.   
Kwyjibo42
Super Regular
Cold Giver

P: 10/12/2014 21:10 EST
    OK, but who hasn't had psychotic break while playing and yelled at everyone for no reason? I don't have the data in front of me, but I'm willing to speculate the time between incidents keeps getting longer.

You might ask me "Why should I care?" I would say "Today Fish, tomorrow me."

Side question: How do some users get a blue ribbon next to their name? Is this like the burrito thing where only a chosen few are worthy of explanation?
  
DeathBringer
Super Regular
Pipey FlagCatcher

P: 10/12/2014 21:15 EST
E: 10/12/2014 21:17 EST
    You put your contact info/name/location in your profile to get the ribbon. And "Today Fish, tomorrow me." , havn't you already tasted the slobber on the ball gag? Teehee  
yousnoozeyoudie
Super Regular
Dizzy Capper

P: 10/12/2014 21:24 EST
    Its not him yelling and screaming like a bloody idiot.

It's merely his IQ is less than zero. If your IQ is > zero, you shouldn't have the kind of issue he has.
  
Kwyjibo42
Super Regular
Cold Giver

P: 10/12/2014 21:29 EST
E: 10/12/2014 21:35 EST
    Thank you for explaining Deathbringer. I'm way too paranoid to do that though, although I may put fake info out there just to get some cool flair.

Also, yes, I quite literally meant that I can be perma-gagged at any time. I do my part by limiting my vodka intake to more than a pint but less than a handle. This way I can play "hard mode" without collateral damage.

So yes I respect the ball gag but there is a small part of me that enjoys embracing not giving a fuck. The balance between being a contributing part of the community and a complete asshole is one of those things that makes life interesting.
  
Kwyjibo42
Super Regular
Cold Giver

P: 10/12/2014 21:40 EST
    Reply to yousnoozeyoudie
So you're saying it is acceptable to be a bloody idiot? The value of IQ scores is debateable at best. Fish actually plays the game well, whereas there are other people (no need to mention names) playing the game who are completely oblivious to the events going on around them.

I think a lot of what Fish says is just meta-commentary that goes over a lot of people's heads and they seem to get angry because they don't get it, and I don't hate them for that.
  
dsm
Super Regular
Rocket Jockey

P: 10/12/2014 21:52 EST
E: 10/12/2014 21:53 EST
    "I think a lot of what Fish says is just meta-commentary that goes over a lot of people's heads and they seem to get angry because they don't get it"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwRFRS3e5ws
  
Kwyjibo42
Super Regular
Cold Giver

P: 10/12/2014 22:09 EST
    more like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2RwCzjjvXM
And yes I do plan on replying to every post. In most cases this may hamper constructive criticism and make me look like an egomaniac, and I'm ok with that.
  
dsm
Super Regular
Rocket Jockey

P: 10/12/2014 22:53 EST
    Nexium commercial?  
Kwyjibo42
Super Regular
Cold Giver

P: 10/12/2014 23:17 EST
    http://youtu.be/7rTJtVyQhN0?t=10s  
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