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Nookie
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P: 03/29/2021 17:32 EST
E: 03/29/2021 17:32 EST
    you should not be an admin  
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drippy-
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P: 03/29/2021 17:33 EST
    You probably mean that I shouldn't be admin, since I was the one who kicked you.

  
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P: 03/29/2021 17:34 EST
    for what. that fucking fool was in out sniper resup 2 of my 3 times i left spawn, and the third he was camping looking for cheap kills
  
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drippy-
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P: 03/29/2021 17:39 EST
   
NOOKIE: WALNUTS
NOOKIE: GET OUT OF OUR SPAWN AND FUCKING PLAY THE GAME
Mr. Walnuts: no whining
puppy: si
NOOKIE: playing like a bitch like always
Buckets: says the guy whining like one
* NOOKIE usually whines, banned for 5 minutes.
  
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P: 03/29/2021 17:42 EST
    i see nothing wrong with that. as i said, he was in the sniper resup or piping for cheap kills of people leaving sniper resup. get skill. calling out admins for their shitty play style is apparently frowned upon now.  
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drippy-
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P: 03/29/2021 17:45 EST
E: 03/29/2021 17:45 EST
   
From !rules:
NO WHINING
This includes whining about spammers, cheaters (see below), hwguys, lag, being kicked, infected teammates, new players, excessive use of 'gay', etc.
From MOTD:
* Dont whine about people being infected, be a medic or deal with it
From Admin guidelines:
Generally, bashing an entire class (for example, saying the phrase 'hwgay' automatically gets a whine), a certain play style (spamming, defense), someone sitting in spawn while infected, lag, noobs, or bitching about teammates in public chat will deserve a !whiner -- (Using team chat is much more forgiving, as telling your team not to sit in spawn infected might let new players know not to do it, even if its laced with insults)
  
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P: 03/29/2021 18:07 EST
    brooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo if that was you as an hw, get some skill  
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Spoofer
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P: 03/29/2021 18:54 EST
E: 03/29/2021 19:28 EST
    Nookie has told me Walnuts was doing his inner spawn pipetrap deal again. GratefulDead was banned about 10 days ago for attacking others in spawn as Demo (granted, you state a MIRV was involved).

However, dozens of us still see this as a "rules for thee, but not for me" type situation where Walnuts is granted immunity (or conversely, laying pipes around a blind spawn corner to trigger a victim's twitch reaction as a flimsy excuse to instantly kill fresh spawns is only allowed because Walnuts has been the one doing it).

It is not even arguable that this is Walnuts' primary motivation. He spends an overwhelming chunk of his gametime piping spawn from the outside, and now he's weaseled his way into being allowed to do so from inside now as well. Anybody with functioning fingers can toss a nade or pipes or whatever, destroy any teles that need destroying, and get back out dropdown without taking fatal (or even any) damage. It's clear Walnuts is there to linger and fish for further easy spawn kills.

What constitutes respawn spamming/camping?
There is no fine line for someone to walk on this rule. The general rule of thumb is to not try to get cheap kills from people spawning. We want to provide protection from people sitting outside the spawn door with a pipe trap,


They haven't even made it to the door yet. 9_9

It's nonsense, and the hypocrisy is understandably pissing a lot of your regulars off.

If you go on record to state that this is allowed for all players, I'd appreciate it, so I can get a gang together to show you why this is an immeasurably stupid precedent. Or do the more sensible thing and acknowledge that this is clearly a stupid loophole (which primarily only an admin can get away with) which violates the intention of the spawn rules.
  
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wmkbsl
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P: 03/29/2021 19:15 EST
   
drippy- wrote:
NOOKIE: WALNUTS
NOOKIE: GET OUT OF OUR SPAWN AND FUCKING PLAY THE GAME
Mr. Walnuts: no whining
puppy: si
NOOKIE: playing like a bitch like always
Buckets: says the guy whining like one
* NOOKIE usually whines, banned for 5 minutes.
Apropos of nothing, but Buckets with the burn!!! Didn't know he had it in him.
  
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[SHS]Hitz
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P: 03/29/2021 20:09 EST
    If Walnuts is laying pipe traps inside the sniper spawn, then that's against server rules. Is there proof of this?  
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EmotionallyDisturbedParakeet
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P: 03/30/2021 04:27 EST
   
wmkbsl wrote:
drippy- wrote:
NOOKIE: WALNUTS
NOOKIE: GET OUT OF OUR SPAWN AND FUCKING PLAY THE GAME
Mr. Walnuts: no whining
puppy: si
NOOKIE: playing like a bitch like always
Buckets: says the guy whining like one
* NOOKIE usually whines, banned for 5 minutes.
Apropos of nothing, but Buckets with the burn!!! Didn't know he had it in him.

BUCKETS MVP.

  
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Backalleybuttlove
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P: 03/30/2021 06:26 EST
    The whole not spamming the respawn official rule is pretty ambiguous apart from the clause about spy gas grenades which is explicitly mentioned. "There is no fine line" and "There are legitimate reasons to spam the spawn as well" are found in the official rule against spamming the spawn. The tenor seems to be not getting "cheap kills" but in away demos piping the hallways to the flagroom and camping in the rafters are, arguably, getting cheap kills.

If Walnuts was piping outside the sniper exit door from what I understand that is legal; annoying, but legal. The unwritten rule of the server appears to be no throwing nades or any form of spamming up the wall into the sniper spawn from the hallway leading to the ramp room and likewise no wanton spawn killing inside of the sniper spawn. The only reason to be in the enemy sniper spawn is to take out teleporters and be on your merry way. If someone respawns there while taking out the teleporters you can fight back but still need to make a hasty exit. You can't crouch walk out as a demo while piping the spawn while exiting.

I think there are more shades of gray with the 2nd floor respawn near the ramp room. That is often a hot area with concjumping medics and scouts often bumping into newly spawned players on top of people entering the 2nd floor from the ramp room. I don't think it would be within the realm of cheap kills if you have a nade primed and readied upon landing on the enemy sniper deck to throw down the hall into the 2nd floor provided you intend to continue to the spiral or the elevator. Especially so if there's an SG in the 2nd floor mezzanine; you have both the SG and respawning players to worry about. Like the spy grenade, maybe we can allow one "hail mary" nade thrown from the sniper deck into the hallway landing outside the 2nd floor mezzanine respawn. Yes, someone might get a cheap kill, but that means one less nade for them if they make it to the basement. The cheap kill is at the expense of an extra nade for the basement. There's also a chance the nade is totally wasted. I would gladly be cheap killed if it meant the opponent having no nades for the basement. Just my two cents.
  
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drippy-
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P: 03/30/2021 08:22 EST
E: 03/30/2021 08:27 EST
    !report instead of pubchat whining...goes for anyone, about anyone

Walnuts was sitting on the sniper deck piping it. He was standing against the spawn door in the corner, pipes were near the edge of the battlements. Even if the pipes were against the spawn door, battlements is still fair game for that.

Quite a bit different than Gratefuldead who went into spawn throwing a mirv at the back door and then piping inside it without trying to get out.

The moment that Nookie was whining about it, walnuts was in their water spiral, nowhere near spawn. I'm assuming he was whining about a few minutes earlier when walnuts was on their deck, otherwise he was completely making it up. Kinda like the posts in here talking about Walnuts piping in spawn...
  
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gg#4
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P: 03/30/2021 08:49 EST
E: 03/30/2021 08:52 EST
    Walnuts get skill

*HOLDS CHAMPS BELT*

Spoofer. You should get your gang and do the piping in the spawn thing. Clearly its not against the rules. Just dont det them until you are fired upon.

Be like the scene in the 2nd LOTR when the hordes of Orcs were upon the gates of Gondor and one of the slippery fingered archers prematurely fires an arrow.

Just wait for a slippery fingered neckbeard to pop around the corner and then you and your gang can be the Orc Horde. Can infiltrate deeper into the spawn and just unload all your grenades and blue pipes and light that spawn up.
  
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straightcashhomie
P: 03/30/2021 09:07 EST
    Another Walnuts thread about being a terrible admin and player.

What number is this? I don't understand the bond between Drippy and Walnuts. Walnuts admin should of been removed the day after he got it.

Further, do you guys REALLY and I mean this serious, want to see me come back and do this BS walnuts does in the spawn, every second, of every match? What's the server going to do when Nug, Nookie, Spoofer, Upset etc. get annoyed enough because of this dipshit admin and just trolls the entire server?

You do realize how easy this would be for us? yes?
  
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