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level1nobody
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Evil Medic
|  | | P: | 10/07/2024 03:30 EST | | E: | 10/07/2024 03:40 EST |
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The conservative estimate is that we won't know the true side effects for five years. Some say 15 years. The ace in the hole that big pharma has is that they know how difficult it will be to tie potential long-term effects to the vax. If it's an auto-immune disorder that someone gets, it likely won't manifest until a year later, (the testimonials of the immediate sufferers of side effects notwithstanding). The SV40 gene is a carcinogen, and since literally everything humanity is doing nowadays can cause cancer, we could never prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that the vax is what caused any particular person's turbo-cancer.
I'm totally with you on the junkfood and sedentary-lifestyle angle. But the bone I'm picking with the article is that they mentioned "super-fit." By the research gathered by people who have been ostracized from their careers because they didn't fall in line, it's apparent that myocarditis happens significantly more frequently with the vax than with COVID. Because COVID is a crapshoot: You can tolerate it fairly well. Or you can wait until shit hits the fan (as we've been advised) to go to the hospital. Early intervention with the aforementioned demonized therapeutics is crucial.
But the vax is a guaranteed deluge of spike proteins (or mRNA instructions to build the spike proteins). And they don't stay localized to the arm. They're known to travel (hence the lack of nucleocapsids found in the hearts or brains of victims that you'd expect if it were the virus itself).
Not to mention, our bullshit detectors kick in when the propagandists - for the thousandth time - assert that the vaccine is safe safe safe safe super-safe and side effects are rare rare rare rare super-rare.
It's really not that I or any one person has all the answers and the absolute proof. It's that we need to stop assuming the people in charge are, by default, correct in their assertions that ever-so-coincidentally align with big pharma's plans. | |
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[IOD]Snips
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| | | P: | 10/07/2024 09:05 EST |
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Still blows my mind that J&J covid vaccine still isn't available in the USA. Like if I was 80 or 90 years old fraile enough where a loud dog barking or a sudden gust of wind was enough to take me down I would likely get any covid vax regularly.
Being in my 40's & mostly doing remote stuff away from the public anyways currently, it's insanely foolish at least from my perspective for myself currently to be getting covid vaccines. I did get one J&J vaccine in 2021, that was my only vaccine taken.
Bottom line is everyone has to look at their own age, risk factors, current covid mutation, and *drum roll* decide for themselves. Most people fall into a panic if the NEWS warns or suggests they take the vaccine. Society trusts corporations with their privacy, health and allows them to tell us what "truth" is going on in the world in the form of news, which is quite silly. It's nuts 99% of people don't research a rushed vaccine's risks & give it more thought beyond the casual news anchor light heartedly recommending the jab.
Mothers injecting their 6month newborn with a rushed solution to a threat that has been downgraded is further proof we live in an age of halfwits.
Yes I agree it will take 5-15 years before we truly know if they were safe enough for the public's use. It will be hard though because countless other variables such as exercise/diet/work not to mention lifestyle/travel changes that took place & remained starting in 2020 onwards changes the data for virtually everything. There are large numbers of people that switched to working from home starting in 2020 and remain doing that only, still even to this day. This changes their mental & physical health in a big way.
Scary to think there's probably some people walking around that have had 20 covid vaccines since 2020, right? Or maybe a number a little below that. If a big problem was going to happen, I think these guys might show signs faster. There's absolutely some people who plan on getting their covid booster shots every 3-6 months for the rest of their life. I want to see what their stomach lining looks like after 10 years of regular vaccine booster shots. I forget if it was the stomach lining or liver, but they did see the dna changed I believe from that one research paper a long while back. | |
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Shemmie
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| | | P: | 10/07/2024 10:42 EST |
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 | Bottom line is everyone has to look at their own age, risk factors, current covid mutation, and *drum roll* decide for themselves. | |
Agreed. The downside to that is those of lower intelligence and / or academic background may make worse decisions for themselves.
Not really down with the "so we'll make the decision for them" approach that some folk seem to take to that particular issue.
Expert advice has been consistent and unchanging, apart from its inconsistencies and changes. I say we trust the science, and listen to the experts, as Thalidomide never happened.
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level1nobody
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Evil Medic
| | | P: | 10/07/2024 11:13 EST | | E: | 10/07/2024 11:30 EST |
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And the more I read about Fauci and AZT, the more the story comes together.
Big pharma used to be an entity we all had a healthy distrust of. But then Trump broke our brains and everything establishment or establishment-adjacent became saviors to about 40% of the population...
MAGA overwhelmingly distrusts the vax? Guess I love pharma now!
MAGA wants to drain the swamp? Guess I love the FBI now!
MAGA wants us out of Ukraine's affairs? Hello Azov! 🥰 | |
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Shemmie
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| | | P: | 10/07/2024 11:34 EST | | E: | 10/07/2024 11:35 EST |
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That's an interesting point. ^
Perfectly intelligent people who would've previously had a healthy scepticism of various institutions are now humping their leg, seemingly due to ideological positioning on other issues.
Trump should advocate for the medicinal benefits of oxygen and water, and wait for nature to self-correct. | |
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nese
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| | | P: | 10/07/2024 19:17 EST |
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nese
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| | | P: | 10/07/2024 19:20 EST |
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| [IOD]Snips wrote:
Still blows my mind that J&J covid vaccine still isn't available in the USA. | |
My first two doses were J&J. If I remember correctly, there was a slight increase in heart problems for men which caused them to pull it. I don't know if it's still available or not, but it definitely was in 2021. | |
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level1nobody
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| | | P: | 10/08/2024 01:18 EST | | E: | 10/08/2024 13:56 EST |
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A 0.2 percentage increase is (based on my quasi-sober 1am calculations) about 660,000 people. Noise as it may possibly be, it's still alarming.
I've watched countless hours of actual clinicians discussing their experiences and those of their peers and also loads of testimonials from patients who suffered adverse effects. It's clear to many that something is not right and it's not just "severe COVID," which is also a possible misdirection considering people who get periodic injections of spike proteins (or their mRNA progenitors) also typically get COVID.
It's analogous to the argument that the economy is fine because look at the S&P, you plebes. The public can see all the graphs and charts that Robert Reich can throw at them, but they know that they and their community are financially hurting.
EDIT: We also need to take into account why 2010 was arguably worse than now. Was 2010 worse because the government pushed an experimental vaccine on us? If 2010 was worse for heart attacks because Russia had flooded the US with covert military units of trained circus bears to jump-scare Americans, that would be reasonable and explainable.
But we're seeing an uptick, slight as it may be perceived, during the years of the vax, a time period that Americans were periodically flooded with more harmful spike proteins than they'd probably get if they just let their immune system handle a COVID infection, with off-patent therapeutics if needed.
People are noticing. The signaling is off the charts. Also, the CDC lies and has been captured by big pharma along with the FDA. Take anything they say with the extreme skepticism we (royal "we") would give to a vaccine-injured person speaking out against the system that coerced them into getting jabbed. | |
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nese
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| | | P: | 10/08/2024 16:44 EST |
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My point is, the graph on this website is a classic case of skewed information. It isn't statistically significant and the years have been cherry-picked to only 5. I could claims of identical impact, both up and down, looking at the 18-44 demographic in various years from here: https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/hus/2020-2021/HDPrv.pdf
More broadly, I agree, heart attacks in young, healthy people are alarming and something to be seriously discussed, but this daily mail article seems to be more for clicks than serious discussion. | |
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Ah sorry, I see your point now. | |
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| Shemmie wrote:
That's an interesting point. ^
Perfectly intelligent people who would've previously had a healthy scepticism of various institutions are now humping their leg, seemingly due to ideological positioning on other issues.
Trump should advocate for the medicinal benefits of oxygen and water, and wait for nature to self-correct. | |
Eloquent and funny.
*grabs shemmie’s ass while making eye contact* | |
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XenOz3r0xT
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| | P: | 10/15/2024 11:04 EST |
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Gaba I bet you prefer NY strip over fillet mingnon. | |
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As an anecdote, I had a fat diabetic tenant who refused any vaccines due to alleged dead baby stem cells being a key ingredient.
Covid ravaged her lungs, apparently, and the last six months of her tenancy she had to be on oxygen. I don’t know if it’s permanent.
I also recall the dread they felt in the nursing homes, entire residencies wiping out the elder herd.
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| XenOz3r0xT wrote:
Gaba I bet you prefer NY strip over fillet mingnon. | |
I don’t know what ny strip is I like sirloin tips and deer 🦌 meat | |
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Got a doe permit I’ll mail you some venison | |
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