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Looks interesting, but damn, an hour and a half.
I haven't heard it yet but the thing is it is sort of hard to apply the lens of western liberal democracy to the middle east. What happens if the shoe is on the other foot at the Arabs/Mohammadeans have the upper hand? They sowed the wind October 7th and now they reap the whirlwind. They fucked around and they found out. Pick your metaphor.
If I recall correctly the Arabs imported African slaves as much as if not more than did wypipo. So why no descendants of slaves in Arabia? That is because they made the the male slaves eunuchs. So it makes it all the more funny seeing the BLM and antifa types out there shouting "intifada revolution." | |
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It's actually pretty easy to apply the lens of western liberal democracy to Israel:
If it were a western liberal democracy the Palestinians would have roughly equal say in the democratic system as they are part of greater Israel.
Given that they do not, nor have their own state, greater Israel is an apartheid state.
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Who cares about BLM and antifa. Not even God damn relevant. *gets in your face* | |
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| Looks interesting, but damn, an hour and a half.
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Very thorough analysis though. I think Meirsheimer speaks 'the truth,' re international relations / geo politics. | |
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| EmotionallyDisturbedParakeet wrote:
It's actually pretty easy to apply the lens of western liberal democracy to Israel:
If it were a western liberal democracy the Palestinians would have roughly equal say in the democratic system as they are part of greater Israel.
Given that they do not, nor have their own state, greater Israel is an apartheid state.
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"That is a very lucid, and well prepared objection. OVER-RULED!" - The judge from My Cousin Vinny.
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| EmotionallyDisturbedParakeet wrote:
It's actually pretty easy to apply the lens of western liberal democracy to Israel:
If it were a western liberal democracy the Palestinians would have roughly equal say in the democratic system as they are part of greater Israel.
Given that they do not, nor have their own state, greater Israel is an apartheid state.
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Still haven't listened to the video, I intend to do so though. Let me be the snarky kike that I am and say that Israel doesn't have apartheid per se but a sort of pseudo-apartheid. It should also be considered that there are plenty of Arabs (let's use Arab interchangeably with Palestinian) with Israeli citizenship who vote in the elections, serve in the Knesset, hell, we even have (or had, forgot if he retired) our own token A-rab on the Supreme Court. So on that note the apartheid thing doesn't fly. When it comes to the Arabs in the West Bank and Gaza, okay, they aren't able to vote in Israeli elections but they have their own polity albeit not being a state. The situation is a little more nuanced. All the more so given that many Palestinians at one time had Jordanian citizenship. https://www.hrw.org/report/2010/02/01/stateless-again/palest... The Jordanians, in a clever political game, have been withdrawing citizenship from "Palestinians." How come they aren't being held into account? The Jordanians complaining about the Palestinian rights and Israeli apartheid are like a guy who just ass raped someone complaining that his dick smells like shit now. Basically, "Palestine" is an artificial construction and political artifice for Arabs to lay claim to Israel. Don't believe me?
| "The Palestinian people does not exist … there is no differences between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians, and Lebanese . Between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese there are no differences. We are all part of one people, the Arab nation [...] Just for political reasons we carefully underwrite our Palestinian identity. Because it is of national interest for the Arabs to advocate the existence of Palestinians to balance Zionism. Yes, the existence of a separate Palestinian identity exists only for tactical reasons[...] Once we have acquired all our rights in all of Palestine, we must not delay for a moment the reunification of Jordan and Palestine" --Zuhir Mohsen, former PLO big shot | |
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zuheir_Mohsen | |
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elf poo
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| EmotionallyDisturbedParakeet wrote:
It's actually pretty easy to apply the lens of western liberal democracy to Israel:
If it were a western liberal democracy the Palestinians would have roughly equal say in the democratic system as they are part of greater Israel.
Given that they do not, nor have their own state, greater Israel is an apartheid state.
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They DO have equal say in the democratic system. There are 2 million Arabs living in Israel with the same rights including voting rights as Jews. There are no special laws that pertain to Arabs vs Jews and Arabs serve in Government and the Military. All definitions of Apartheid.
https://thehill.com/opinion/international/4388533-israel-is-...
https://www.ajc.org/news/5-reasons-why-the-events-in-gaza-ar... | |
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JiK MAZZ
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| elf poo wrote:
| EmotionallyDisturbedParakeet wrote:
It's actually pretty easy to apply the lens of western liberal democracy to Israel:
If it were a western liberal democracy the Palestinians would have roughly equal say in the democratic system as they are part of greater Israel.
Given that they do not, nor have their own state, greater Israel is an apartheid state.
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...There are 2 million Arabs living in Israel...
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What do you mean by 'living in Israel' ?
I suppose I'm talking about the citizens of the West Bank and Gaza. They are part of greater Israel. They are not allowed to vote in Israeli elections.
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There have been no elections in the West Bank and Gaza Strip for Palestinian Authority offices since 2006, and Palestinians there do not have the right to vote in Israeli elections
https://www.state.gov/reports/2022-country-reports-on-human-... | |
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| When it comes to the Arabs in the West Bank and Gaza, okay, they aren't able to vote in Israeli elections
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...ergo it's an apartheid state, in the textbook sense, because they are not allowed to have their own state, nor allowed to have a say in the policy of Greater Israel, the state they are a part of.
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Also, gaza is an open-air prison.
Well, used to be an open-air prison, now it's a war-crimes scene. | |
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I don't know who it is but the video appears to be catching my attention. | |
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but these days I masturbate to professor Meirsheimer lectures. | |
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