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[IOD]Snips
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|  | | P: | 06/07/2024 02:50 EST |
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Twitter is humanities gauge to how "we" (the people) feel about things, our culture, celebrities or anything and everything. The problem is when you inject internal (twitter owned) bots or external bots that type like humans shifting the fluid like dynamics of our culture. When the masses feel like canceling someone, something or embarrassing something or something going viral, we operate in a world where we believe bots don't exist. But because they do exit, the bot operators shift the discussion and fake a human response to deliver an outcome that can lead to changes in political views, presidents or culture wars.
News is designed as a distraction, leveraging the left and the right against each other so that the world believes and assumes that every big company operates in a legal and transparent way. Pushing the narrative that there is a ladder of leadership in an organized government, however one side is a hero and the other side is a villian. It is up to you to decide which one is Clark Kent and which one is Lex Luthor. The truth is both are evil & the entire system is designed in a corrupt manner. Meanwhile the richest families in the entire world have not disclosed how much money/property/wealth they have and are operating in secret. People need a person to blame or congratulate when the economy or global events occur. They need simple answers and a "truth" that sounds believable and agreeable. People don't want to be told "We can't tell you the entire truth due to classified information".
Technology companies and their meta data harvesting efforts are being fed into newly built AI farms for predictive analytics. If you hurt the technology sector by revealing their environmental co2 footprint or the cobalt mining required for efficient battery production, this hurts the strongest tool in the richest people on earth's toolkit.
I think people visiting facebook or twitter, believing that hunter biden or trump or whatever viral political topic is important so they watch the news. They believe the news is all fact checked and unbiased and with enough watching they'll uncover the actual truth for some reason. Forming strong opinions on vice presidents, SEC operators or whomever else based on "D vs R" on the news is insane, that's literally the point I'm trying to drive home through all of this. | |
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level1nobody
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| | | P: | 06/07/2024 03:01 EST | | E: | 06/07/2024 03:12 EST |
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 | I think you're confusing the hierarchical way of the world. The triangle of power is NOT:
President
Politicians
More Politicians
CIA/FBI/NSA | |
Actually not confused at all, haha. I insinuated that the elites have the politician's ears. That puts the elites higher on the hierarchy than politicians.
| This would be like saying you have identified clever people who can tell when they're being fed bullshit and are on track to finding the location that god is currently hiding at. A group of people that have ended up being ahead of the curve in getting to the real truth are getting closer to disproving thousands of false religions. You see, it wouldn't matter how smart they are, because such a goal is impossible. The truth is not hiding in plain sight waiting to be uncovered. | |
I've noticed an epidemic of exaggeration when it comes to ensnaring "conspiracy theorists" into a logic trap. That trap usually comes in the form of a strawman argument taking one side to the extreme:
- "You distrust a few politicians? Oh, so you think every politician is corrupt?"
- "You don't trust the COVID vax? Well then I guess you think all medicine is bullshit! And never go to your doctor again because you probably think 100% of doctors are bad!"
I said "...ahead of the curve in getting to the real truth." I never said or insinuated that random nobodies are uncovering 100% of the absolute truth. Just some truth. Enough truth.
But we're playing with semantics here. The top people whose work I follow have been nearly flawless in their journalism. Do they know all of the actual truth? No. So what?
That's all I was saying. I follow people with a good journalistic track record. They're just consistently right about stuff months and years before it hits the zeitgeist. Not interested in debating the how and the why of the concept of absolute truth like we're Greek philosophers. I don't need to know on a cosmic level how truly and spiritually right a journalist is from the perspective of understanding the great secrets of the universe. They're good journalists. Gonna keep following them. If they fuck up, then I'll stop. | |
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[IOD]Snips
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| | | P: | 06/07/2024 03:28 EST |
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Plane crashed, x died xx survived. That is news.
Bird flu crossed somehow into a human, however not possible to transmit human to human so no cause for alarm. That is news.
Hunter Biden did secret stuff as a politician. This is not news, this is distracting bullshit.
Donald Trump did secret stuff as a politician. This is not news, this is distracting bullshit.
I could identify a fucking huge pile of unprovable idiotic articles from both sides on news sites that are not facts, or more importantly not possible to be proven correct or incorrect. But rather stir doubt, fear or some other emotion about the "other side".
These are not extremes, and the examples above are not conspiracy theories either. But even going down that route when respectable journalists want to discuss figuring out the exact lab and exact person responsible for covid-19, it's just so silly & impossible that it scares me when crowds show up ready to read or watch. As if its a movie & if the answers sound fantastic enough that they're ready to believe anything.
I just think it's like trying to grab the wind with your hands, something that I know is impossible. It's fine if we agree to disagree, if it makes you "feel" good to hunt for big & exciting topics then who am I to stand in-between your happiness. I just wish that many of you that seem very politically charged zoom out and think through the larger pictures deeper. | |
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level1nobody
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| | | P: | 06/07/2024 03:47 EST | | E: | 06/07/2024 04:14 EST |
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| These are not extremes, and the examples above are not conspiracy theories either. But even going down that route when respectable journalists want to discuss figuring out the exact lab and exact person responsible for covid-19, it's just so silly & impossible that it scares me when crowds show up ready to read or watch. As if its a movie & if the answers sound fantastic enough that they're ready to believe anything. | |
It sounds like we're on the same page because the journalists I respect don't do that.
EDIT: I mean, if I understand what you're saying, they're not intentionally getting people riled up over a specious witch hunt to the point of inciting violence.
| [...] if it makes you "feel" good | |
That's reductive. I don't pay attention to all this for good feelies. At worst, it's a horrible and isolating experience to look into this stuff and know that the vast majority of polite society would scoff and belittle you just for having the conversation. At best, it's mildly cathartic.
| I just wish that many of you that seem very politically charged zoom out and think through the larger pictures deeper. | |
Who says we don't? The corruption du jour is just the surface rot of the grander issues. It's what we have here in front of us to deal with. Things don't change until people get mad. And there's a lot to be mad about. Let us be angry. Do us that favor.
EDIT: Unless you're not talking about me specifically, but rather the people who only look at the world through the lens of their political party. In that case, I agree. | |
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[IOD]Snips
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| | | P: | 06/07/2024 04:14 EST |
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The problem is the anger seems to stem from emotional unprovable stories designed as weapons to help a side win an ethical conclusion that the president they want to win is better than the other one.
A story can be completely true, only partially true, or completely false. Unless you're working with classified documents it's impossible to solidify an exact answer. People don't see this, they act under the impression that all news agencies are doing their best to report facts and that for the most part they believe nothing is classified because there's just so much news out there.
People don't believe there are rich people influencing the law, adjusting the stock market or even who our next US president will be. They believe instead that their vote matters and that with enough news consumption the missing facts will present themselves. That things have been bad because the villain was picked instead of the hero and YOU know the right answer this time. They're both villains and there is no right answer however.
There are no journalists that talk about controversial biden or trump or other people in the white house that have access to secret information. If they're trying to reverse engineer the reasoning the one side doesn't want to talk about something or topics both sides are trying to cover up then it's still a pointless topic to emotionally invest your time and energy into is all I'm stating.
Get angry and upset about cobalt mining. Cameras not allowed, stock market & booming economy is benefiting, American Citizens almost entirely unaware. But China owns most of those mines and are benefiting the most. That is a real thing with real deaths, real injuries, real humans suffering. News won't cover it as there's money to be LOST by making this go viral by a LOT.
Getting angry because Hunter Biden got rich or Trump hid documents at his house or whatever after leaving the whitehouse, people keep pushing towards shit like this that they'll never get a real truth answer to.
Maybe my brain just works differently than most but I'm seeing stuff for what it really is. I'm fine with unknowable stuff & think there's a deeper understanding in being honest about that type of mindset instead of forcing that everything can have an answer or a close accurate guess with little to no facts. | |
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[IOD]Snips
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| | | P: | 06/07/2024 04:24 EST |
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Imagine if a CEO of Google or IBM or some other huge name was secretly killing people and was part of a major organized crime ring. Leaders of the industries controlling the world is something that isn't political, but should fucking matter so much more than anybody with a Trump or Biden last name. But people don't care unless the news says its worth of their care or attention. And their attention should be on unverified fear pieces mostly.
I just get upset that people repeat whatever the news wants people to focus on using vague facts. It's like they hear about something stupid Biden or Trump said, and the viewer watching the news doesn't care. They hear it a second time on the news, and think it must be important because they've heard it before. They hear it a third and fourth time and now it's stuck in their heads and are repeating what the reporter said to their co-workers and at Thanksgiving. Trump does that bullshit all the time, saying something stupid 6 times on camera and then towards the end of a speech "Everyone I talk to seems to be saying this same thing" after proceeding to repeat the stupid thing he made up a 7th time.
Maybe I'm angry that people can't think for themselves. And the people designing news stories along with twitter pushing what is viral & important seem to be unprovable waste of time pieces that too many people believe is 100% true or 100% false. | |
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Yeah, a lot of what you're describing is just being based, and being aware of higher-level plots that alter your perspective about what's really going on. MK-ULTRA, feds agitating protests, CIA-backed color revolutions, "LGBTCIA", etc. | |
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level1nobody
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| | | P: | 06/07/2024 04:53 EST | | E: | 06/07/2024 05:04 EST |
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| [IOD]Snips wrote:
Maybe I'm angry that people can't think for themselves. And the people designing news stories along with twitter pushing what is viral & important seem to be unprovable waste of time pieces that too many people believe is 100% true or 100% false. | |
Twitter is not perfect, but it's the best it has been in a decade. Most people who decry its popularity since Elon's takeover are upset because their left/liberal echo chamber no longer shadow-bans icky tweets from conservatives to the great extent that did.
Twitter is a very efficient way to stay on top of current events. It's insanely easy to have dialogues, debates and expose yourself to points of view outside of your bubble. And it puts your opinions through the wringer. Because if your tweet is popular enough, your ideological opposites will find you and battle test your point of view. And they'll do it with links to studies and articles with (drumroll...) facts and data. | |
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[IOD]Snips
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| | | P: | 06/07/2024 08:03 EST |
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The entire world is being taken over by low level AI bots, so I'm not so sure Twitter is the best it's ever been. The ownership is the best it's ever been with Elon. Take Rottentomatoes, a website for reviewing movies and tv shows. There's starting to be some suspicious chatgbt like behavior in the customer review sections. I wouldn't be surprised if Amazon product reviews and other digital "my opinion" pieces will become overtaken with bots as time goes on.
If Elon still owns Twitter, then he'll know how many company bots they have. Just like World of Warcraft constantly fighting bots, it's a losing battle against technology. But what Elon won't know is how many users on his platform are real vs bots. And over time as it becomes easier, cheaper & faster to launch even better typing bots then the "what is real" sense humans obtain based on forums, youtube comments, twitter, and everywhere will become fake, where bots type with a purpose or agenda at doing something. Boosting ticket sales to a certain movie, badmouthing amazon product competitors, convincing the world the majority want a different president or path forward for America if there are more twitter bots than humans.
Twitter by design is most effective and worth the most when the topic is highly divided I believe I read in a few places online. So if 49% think one way and 51% on the opposite, it's a very valuable resource as engagement skyrockets as people are convinced their single opinion might be the tiebreaker. Of course the more this occurs, the higher an evil businessman will pay for bot launching/controlling technology. This might sound like a conspiracy or paranoia, but AI is really booming in 2024. ChatGPT is not fiction, you should know that massively stronger alternatives are arriving very soon if not already out. | |
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nese
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| | | P: | 06/08/2024 21:27 EST |
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| Mr. Walnuts wrote:
Doing something to protect the public welfare is not bullshit, and its not a personal decision. | |
This. I cannot for the life of me understand how people who have the ability to make a decision make one that demonstrably harms other people. I guess that's human nature. :/
| From what I've read just on this thread, these things are also very frightening:
1. Anyone devoted to public service
2. Science. Oh, did I say that one already? sorry
3. The entire justice system
4. Entire races of people
5. Media (other than russian troll farm memes)
6. People with formal educations
7. Business leaders
8. Girl scouts selling cookies
Just don't go outside or turn on the TV | |
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lol, I might ahve to print this out and post it.
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level1nobody
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| | | P: | 06/08/2024 23:00 EST | | E: | 06/09/2024 00:22 EST |
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The state of public welfare right now is that the working class of the U.S. is about 3 trillion dollars poorer, 40% of black-owned businesses went under, at least hundreds of thousands of people likely dead from our pandemic response and there are millions of anxious and depressed kids who fell behind in socialization and education in the most crucial years of their life.
One thing that unites the people who've slandered the contrarians to the pandemic response is that they speak in mostly vaguities, with a bewildering amount of trust in the people we all know are and have been psychopathic, corrupt liars, only resorting to "research" when they need to google "debunkings" by "fact-checking" organizations funded by BlackRock and Vanguard.
We all know who the corrupt people are in the world, yet we collectively took a mental vacation when it came to trusting these absolute villains to respond to a pandemic that the U.S. government unintentionally helped create. | |
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BuckNasty
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| | | P: | 06/09/2024 04:59 EST |
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BuckNasty
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| | | P: | 06/09/2024 05:01 EST |
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as a member of the white community... | |
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BuckNasty
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| | | P: | 06/09/2024 05:04 EST |
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I know yall have a sense of humor | |
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gg#4
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| | | P: | 06/10/2024 13:46 EST |
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| BuckNasty wrote:
as a member of the white community... | |
I am the greatest member of the white community and its not even close.
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