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[IOD]Snips
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P: 05/10/2024 02:24 EST
    It's likely this May 11th storm will be a G4 and nothing to worry about. We will know more tomorrow as the 11th gets closer about the true expected intensity.

If they do decide to upgrade it to an extreme storm class of G5, I'm not taking any chances on it being the weakest possible G5 or not at that point.

My personal G5 Solarstorm plan:
*withdraw $500-$1000 paper cash (if I have enough)
*fillup car with gas
*fillup my single use WaterBOB in bathtub with 100 gallons of tap water. If the grid doesn't fail, I'm out the $35 & simply empty the 835 pounds of water down the bathtub drain.
*run to Costco & buy several 20 pound bags of white rice. Dirt cheap staple food that I can either keep incase of another G5 event in 2024 or donate to the homeless before it expires in 1 year. Saves your life if needed, helps out someone else if not - a win win.

Now my understanding is the longer the wires, the higher the current/voltage during an extreme storm, which is different from an EMP. So during the expected hours the earth is flooded with charged particles I would flip my entire home's circuit breaker off disconnecting my house from the grid.

The only critical thing for me to worry about having no electricity temporarily is my refrigerator/freezer which I can plug into my solar powered batterybank. Otherwise if I had no backup power options (like most people), I would set a timer so that around 4hours later I would flip the power back on giving the refrigerator/freezer a chance to get the food back to safe levels of cooling before flipping off again.

I don't want my TVs, computers, stereos, AC/Heating to all burnout being plugged into the wall where the grid failing destroys my plugged in electronics too. Same with the washing machine, Dryer, not to mention the resulting potential fires in appliances or the walls as millions of volts enter the house? For safety I think flipping the main breaker OFF is the smartest move really.

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IF EMP INSTEAD
If this was an EMP from a nuke, I would be placing electronics along with microwave & inverters into my large faraday cages. Metal trash can with cardboard lining the insides work too. With an EMP the charge occurs along even tiny wires resulting in the permanent failure of most electronics even if unplugged & turned off. But if they're inside a faraday cage during the event then they're safe. Newer cars built with computers would be dead, older cars would be fine.

If a single major city was ever attacked with a nuke in America, I would expect an high altitude far stretching EMP from above soon afterwards & take such preparations. I'd consider electronics not properly shielded to be dead.
  
[IOD]Snips
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P: 05/11/2024 18:41 EST
    5/12 prediction was changed to a G5 for tomorrow on NOAA.

Bloomberg quote from article below makes me a little nervous:

"The storms came about after five coronal mass ejections burst from a large sunspot cluster earlier this week. Having so many of these bursts of energy spaced so close together is very rare, said Michael Wiltberger, a scientist at the National Center for Atmospheric Research. “Five is amazing. I am just stunned.”

Wiltberger said scientists weren’t sure what would happen with the coronal mass ejections coming so close together and how they would interact with each other and the Earth’s magnetic field."


https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-05-10/severe-so...
  
[IOD]Snips
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P: 05/11/2024 18:42 EST
    Did any of you see the northern lights last night? Should be visible tonight again in the northern states.

I've read estimates possibly northern CA to as far south as Alabama might be able to see them too. They were faint but visible near Portland OR over here at night.
  
Ignorant_Florist
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P: 05/11/2024 18:55 EST
    Even if they made it this far south, which I doubt will happen.... we've got too much light pollution to see shit.

Now, if nukes are launched.... I should be able to see them just fine..... for a microsecond.
  
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P: 05/12/2024 04:33 EST
    Saw nothing in the sky tonight, lame. Will try again tomorrow night to see if there are northern lights.  
Vishus
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P: 05/12/2024 23:08 EST
    Lights were absolutely popping off where I live, but we still have electricity and are still alive.  
Ignorant_Florist
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P: 05/12/2024 23:10 EST
    You sure about that? I'm pretty sure we all died back in 2012 because the Mayans said we would.  
EmotionallyDisturbedParakeet
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P: 05/18/2024 19:31 EST
    so one of these space ejaculations could be big enough to wipe out the power grid is it true they become more and more likely to happen as the sun burns thru its mass and gets more floaty   
EmotionallyDisturbedParakeet
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P: 05/18/2024 19:32 EST
   
Ignorant_Florist wrote:
You sure about that? I'm pretty sure we all died back in 2012 because the Mayans said we would.
look up mayan death whistle sounds on you tube its eerie.
  
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P: 05/18/2024 19:39 EST
   
EmotionallyDisturbedParakeet wrote:
so one of these space ejaculations could be big enough to wipe out the power grid is it true they become more and more likely to happen as the sun burns thru its mass and gets more floaty
is that what happened with that wind storm in texas? any correlation?
  
Ignorant_Florist
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P: 05/18/2024 20:10 EST
   
EmotionallyDisturbedParakeet wrote:
Ignorant_Florist wrote:
You sure about that? I'm pretty sure we all died back in 2012 because the Mayans said we would.
look up mayan death whistle sounds on you tube its eerie.
Meh..... I've been ready for death since the early 1980s. Yeah, I learned how to survive, and definitely aimed in that direction... but at this point, the closer I am to a nuclear detonation the happier I'll be when the shit goes down.

Call me a cynic if you want.... but there WAS a time I trained to survive that shit... but that ship sailed a long time ago.
  
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P: 05/19/2024 01:58 EST
E: 05/19/2024 02:00 EST
    On the sun: Imagine South being on the top, North being on the bottom and the magnetic field being very strong. 11 years later the North is instead on the top, South is on the bottom and the magnetic field is very strong again. When the field is very strong in the years below, you have less solar storms on the sun and more stability with the stars field. It's every 11 years so easy to predict.
2008
2019
2030

On the sun: Now imagine in-between the flipping where wild fluxuations from the magnetic field are occuring in the very middle of that 11 year stretch. It is at this point where unpredictable solar storms are more likely to occur, where a CME ejection sometimes much larger than earth gets flung outward. Give or take a year, so a 2023/2024/2025 wave of plasma fucking with the earths magnetic field temporarily is much more likely to occur, the same around 2035 again.

2013
2024
2035

I'm just thankful the earth's magnetic field only reverses every 7000 years or 780,000 years not sure which one.
(i'll be dead by then so don't care which is accurate)
  
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P: 05/19/2024 02:27 EST
    Powergrid wasn't affected or damaged in this very recent G5 storm, but that could have been a much different case had the US been affected by a strong heatwave around July or August instead pushing our power grid to its limits as the nation is using air conditioners.

You can't shut down sections of the grid right before a G5 storm if/when the demand is extra high incase the storm might damage something. The sweating customers without AC would be too pissed incase you were wrong. Warm beer/soda sucks. Let's face it, if mainstream news announced a killer solar storm was arriving then the misunderstanding viewers would start buying umbrellas.
  
[IOD]Snips
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P: 05/19/2024 03:00 EST
    Need a fast reading summary:
*keep a high alert a year before & after both the years of 2024 & 2035 for the most solar storms as the sun's poles are mid-flip.

*watch for G5 storms (rare) which is the highest rating. If the aurora is expected to be as low as Northern CA/Alabama like May 11th 2024 then it was a very weak G5. If the aurora is expected to be visible as low as Mexico expect an 1859 Carrington event where powerlines catch fire & your home appliances die. Real life game of TFC plays out: except there are no teams, the hallways are pitch black dark and the only weapons are silver shotguns, knives or crowbars.

*should have a 1-3 day warning/alert before a storm along with estimated intensity thanks to powerful new detection tools. Healthy to act paranoid if G5 (rare) storm is predicted because the estimated intensity might be underestimated. xyz news corporation won't want to cause a panic if wrong for financial reasons, so deadly news won't be released until just before or after an event.

*storms effect hitting earth should last minutes to hours as they can arrive at different speeds from the sun. Will affect only the sunlit side of earth. Maybe all of USA grid gets destroyed. Or perhaps all of China & surrounding countries only. It wouldn't kill every powergrid on earth.

*have a plan.
think ahead.
doing nothing when the lights go out & copying your neighbors or grocery shoppers with no plan is a bad plan.
waiting for lights to come on for news to tell you what to do is what most people will do.

*Our US Power grid is shit.
Underfunded and overused, with its limits being tested every summer.
North Korea & Russia continue to probe for US grid weaknesses and analyzing attack vectors
Mens with guns shooting transformers at a US power plant surrounded by barbed wire oftentimes without a guard present can takeout electricity to most of the population from some of the smaller states.

*almost all of your neighbors with $50,000 solar panels professionally attached & installed on their rooftops are grid-tied which means they're without power when the grid goes down as they're sending extra power back onto the grid for credits & consuming what they need in real time. Unless they have something like a powerwall or battery backup tied to the solar panels (most don't) they are in the dark the moment that the grid fails just like everyone else.
  
Ignorant_Florist
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P: 05/19/2024 05:32 EST
   
[IOD]Snips wrote:
Powergrid wasn't affected or damaged in this very recent G5 storm, but that could have been a much different case had the US been affected by a strong heatwave around July or August instead pushing our power grid to its limits as the nation is using air conditioners.

You can't shut down sections of the grid right before a G5 storm if/when the demand is extra high incase the storm might damage something. The sweating customers without AC would be too pissed incase you were wrong. Warm beer/soda sucks. Let's face it, if mainstream news announced a killer solar storm was arriving then the misunderstanding viewers would start buying umbrellas.
I call "pissed off customers" a strike against Capitalism........
  
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