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-[IBSC]-iLluSiON-
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P: 08/23/2024 17:03 EST
    https://youtu.be/9gLPtRwXgCM?si=GCafIfqp3OsaL_pR
Some think this guy is a grifter, others think he is a hero. Anyways, people have been waiting for this for the last 3-4 years.

He also just had a book come out called Imminent.
  
Errorist
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Dizzy Capper

P: 08/24/2024 01:18 EST
    Will listen to this one soon.  
[IOD]Snips
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P: 08/24/2024 09:02 EST
    Wow thank you! I recognize this guy from the hearing earlier with the three whistleblowers & a few other interviews. I can't wait to watch/listen to this soon when I have more time.

Watched hundreds of the 5-20minute interviews on that Joe Rogan channel the last few years, up until 5months ago when every single interview since is now an unedited 2-3hours clip each. There's only 3-4 people I'd care to listen to for that long.

All those reports of objects starting and stopping at mach 20 impossible speeds by military instruments are clearly not made by man. Manmade drones without a pilot can't stop above water nearly instantly at those speeds either as reported by multiple military instrumentation. And hundreds of translucent spheres with a solid square cube floating on the inside by people with phones & even airline pilots captured seem to be the most popular UFO objects out there.

Surprised that David Grusch whistleblower hasn't gone missing yet. Hopefully this guy being interviewed doesn't reveal too much to the public.
  
[IOD]Snips
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P: 09/08/2024 12:44 EST
    At around the 44minute mark or so, without revealing the instrumentation or exact location he recalls looking at high definition video taken by the military of an offshore oil derrick. And the video has an underwater UFO even bigger then that enormous stationary Derrick zip past at roughly 450-550 knots fast!?!! Videos like these have not been released to the public & there are many hundreds of military filmed instances that have been filmed, many of which are in 4k. The interview did a great job covering reasonings why the craft might be friendly, hostile or neutral.

So after watching this I did some quick googling:
Google search converts 450-550 knots to 517-633Mph. Larger objects obviously have to go slower if they are manmade, and manmade underwater craft like a submarine carrying people are shaped for speed. You can't make a square or disc shaped submarine and travel quickly underwater.

A quick google search shows the soviet era world record submarine speed was 44.7 knots in 1971, over 10x slower then the underwater UFO he referenced.

The Russian VA-111 rocket-powered supercavitating torpedo is capable of speeds over 200 knots or 230MPH and this might be the world record for a man made object underwater. Keep in mind a torpedo is a tiny object that can only travel a short distance.

Now imagine a Costco sized UFO cruising 2-3x faster than a torpedo underwater. It's still unclear how they're able to leave the water & enter the water without creating a huge splash/wave at crazy speeds either.

Here's an example picture of the size of an offshore oil derrick:
https://www.offshore-energy.biz/wp-content/uploads/sites/6/2...
  
[IOD]Snips
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P: 09/08/2024 12:49 EST
    By far the most interesting topic he covered was the scientists idea that these craft create a bubble of energy operating at a specific frequency capable of manipulating space. Because gravity bends both space and time, a bubble like this would have time operating slower inside then the outside observers.

So to me, this helps explain the impossible mach 25-60 speeds from orbit and stopping almost immediately above the ocean. Being able to zig zag, not to mention not have a sonic boom. If time is moving slower inside the bubble, they would appear extra fast to us like somebody fast forwarding a movie.

This also explains why the most popular ufo's filmed by families/airline pilots around the world is a translucent sphere with a rotating cube on the inside. That translucent sphere is the energy bubble allowing it to bend space.
  
[IOD]Snips
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P: 09/08/2024 13:00 EST
    I think the world "might" have been ready to accept ufos along with their passengers back in 2010 when the global IQ was significantly higher.

Mankind is quite stupid in 2024, with their short fuse & attention span of a butterfly. The easily offended & ultra fragile emotional society can't handle anything bigger than an election or whatever the news deems worth of their attention.

I'm a little annoyed that Joe Rogan didn't ask in the interview about alien life or biologicals. David Grusch had interviews taken earlier in the year which had referenced these might be extra dimensional travelers, with a few assumptions about them being AI machines OR humans and not alien life forms. Hopefully more interviews slowly come over the years before the religious people start buying shotguns where reality conflicts with their belief.

There are very few interviews with people that have had this level of military clearance walking such a fine line between what's allowed to be said by the Pentagon, and I'm grateful you shared this video Illusion. Thank you!
  
Ignorant_Florist
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Pipebomb Monkey

P: 09/08/2024 13:58 EST
    The thing is, we don't know if they actually are from another world. They could have sprang from Earth in the far distant past, and remained hidden under the oceans.

One thing I *AM* willing to bet on, is that wherever they come from, they are NOT hostile. If they were, we wouldn't be having this discussion. They'd have wiped us out by now.
  
[IOD]Snips
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P: 09/08/2024 18:55 EST
    Ufo are mostly interested in nuclear stuff humanity is doing based on sightings & even from the military whistleblowers statements thus far. They've turned off a few nuclear sites or events in the USA, but in the interview he mentions the craft have actually turned on a Nuclear installation in Russia at least once.

They're likely observing us & making sure we don't blow ourselves up intentionally or by accident, hence the extreme interest.

The harder thing for us to wrap our brains around is if they're from a different dimension. That would be similar to saying they're from a different universe entirely. Then you start entering the realm of Dr. Who territory with having a tardis or a craft where the inside is significantly larger than the outside. With all the egyptian hieroglyphics & other cultures from thousands of years in the past showing depictions of flying crafts, it could be that ufo were here before humans were but remained hidden.

If an alien attempted to make contact 20 years ago with a random stranger, the person would have been nervous & felt a responsibility towards humanity to do their best to make first contact go well. In 2024 I have a feeling instead people would want to kill, fuck, or film an alien so that they go viral online. Hit the bell to like & subscribe! sigh.
  
Ignorant_Florist
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Pipebomb Monkey

P: 09/08/2024 20:15 EST
    Well, I mean, Jason Mewes said it best....

"Dude met a Martian once. And fucked it."

Jokes aside... you're right about the different dimensions thing. As it stands, humanity can barely comprehend the concept of "light years". In the "cosmic sense", we are literal toddlers. Yet we've unleashed the power of the atom.

While the show is a bit..... "obvious" in it's editing for entertainment.... have you watched anything about Skinwalker Ranch? I prefer to watch just limited clips, but I do think they might be on to something. I just think they are drawing it out for entertainment purposes.
  
[IOD]Snips
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P: 09/09/2024 05:45 EST
    No but I had heard about skinwalker ranch before. I've watched a few paranormal shows before but have always taken them for entertainment only. The taboo effect on ufo/aliens is definitely real, western culture has never taken the topic seriously.

The thing that escapes most people is that time doesn't flow the exact same everywhere in the universe. If an identical solar system to ours was located many light years away & had a black hole in that area then time would be moving slower for anyone inside that solar system. If we were looking at them through a telescope they'd be moving in slow motion. And if they looked at us through a telescope we would appear to be moving at a super rapid speed. The closer to the black hole you get the more time dialation you get or the stronger curvature of space time.

Now you get a similar effect when traveling near the speed of light, the more intense the faster you get.

Star trek's warp drive concept is that you're bending space infront of & behind you so that you're not physically moving faster than light but rather bending space. The show skips over the likely inconsistent flow of time while traveling with a warp drive.

The UFO/UAP energy bubbles capable of slowing time inside of them would suggest they're capable of doing the opposite too & speeding up time while inside the bubble. Would have no idea how they could generate black hole levels of gravity without affecting space & matter outside of the bubble.
  
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