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elf poo
Super Regular
WMD Creator

P: 06/04/2020 17:47 EST
E: 06/04/2020 17:48 EST
    When someone has a difference in political opinion, but you can put it aside and still find things about them to respect - for me - that does not exist with Muad. His sick and evil beliefs overshadow any other good he may have done. Even the worst serial killers in history treated their friends and family wonderfully. So fuck muadDib he is not missed.

edit - and its not just Jews. He thinks of black people as monkeys with inferior IQs.
  
Spoofer
Super Regular
WMD Creator

P: 06/04/2020 18:25 EST
E: 06/04/2020 18:55 EST
    @ Iggy

I flipped my shit once when I was sick of the same old sheepthink talking points defending assault rifles (in a topic that sprung up to defend them immediately after two mass shootings), when those particular talking points had no logical or rational basis (one of which was being regurgitated by the guy who ended up showcasing all sorts of stolen valor). As I stated numerous times though, I see cases for both sides of the overall debate and I myself fall somewhere inbetween the extremes, I just hate how disingenuous the debate typically devolves into. But I was sorry I flipped my shit and apologized for it. Not that you are innocent of doing the same from time to time with various people around here (including myself), either. ;)

Otherwise, I just bitch nonstop about Engies or uncoordinated teamplay, and mostly keep my contempt for the modern political landscape to private conversations. =p

Wally would make pure propaganda shitposts on the regular solely to wage his crusade against all of us on the forum who wanted no part in it, never featuring any logical or contextual honesty. He'd regularly demonize his opponents, and would feign victimization whenever confronted by either fact or reprimand to how he was presenting himself.

For the most part, the only other person on these forums that does that is Nug, but at least Nug's assertions tend to have more basis in objective reality. A shitton of us are unhappy with what is befalling America, yet how often do the rest of us post political topics, or disparage the entire opposite side of the spectrum? Again, aside from Nug, our ideologies are clear, but we neither flaunt them nor deliberately bring attention to them on these forums, for the most part.

I think most of us recognize TFC and this community should be an escape from all that shit, and we should appreciate what we have in common rather than what everything in government and media is doing to tear us apart.
  
Nug
P: 06/06/2020 06:13 EST
   
Ignorant_Florist wrote:
Not sure I'd call him a bigot, though..... but like a lot of people, he allowed his personal views get in the way of his gaming.

Just enjoy the game and the people you play with, no matter who they are, right?
He was literally the dictionary definition of bigot.
  
Ignorant_Florist
Daycare Manager
Pipebomb Monkey

P: 06/06/2020 11:26 EST
   
Spoofer wrote:
@ Iggy

I flipped my shit once when I was sick of the same old sheepthink talking points defending assault rifles (in a topic that sprung up to defend them immediately after two mass shootings), when those particular talking points had no logical or rational basis (one of which was being regurgitated by the guy who ended up showcasing all sorts of stolen valor). As I stated numerous times though, I see cases for both sides of the overall debate and I myself fall somewhere inbetween the extremes, I just hate how disingenuous the debate typically devolves into. But I was sorry I flipped my shit and apologized for it. Not that you are innocent of doing the same from time to time with various people around here (including myself), either. ;)

Otherwise, I just bitch nonstop about Engies or uncoordinated teamplay, and mostly keep my contempt for the modern political landscape to private conversations. =p

Wally would make pure propaganda shitposts on the regular solely to wage his crusade against all of us on the forum who wanted no part in it, never featuring any logical or contextual honesty. He'd regularly demonize his opponents, and would feign victimization whenever confronted by either fact or reprimand to how he was presenting himself.

For the most part, the only other person on these forums that does that is Nug, but at least Nug's assertions tend to have more basis in objective reality. A shitton of us are unhappy with what is befalling America, yet how often do the rest of us post political topics, or disparage the entire opposite side of the spectrum? Again, aside from Nug, our ideologies are clear, but we neither flaunt them nor deliberately bring attention to them on these forums, for the most part.

I think most of us recognize TFC and this community should be an escape from all that shit, and we should appreciate what we have in common rather than what everything in government and media is doing to tear us apart.
It was more than once... or at least came off that way. In any case, it's something I would prefer not to discuss with you in chats, because you consider shortly worded sentences as "regurgitating talking points". Perhaps they are, but that doesn't make them any less valid(when they ARE valid, that is).

It could be argued that the riots going on across the country(not the peaceful protests.... the actual looting and burning) are reasons why private citizens "need" an AR style weapon.

You'll notice that I never once said that "mass shootings are cool". Anyone who commits one should be executed after having been tried in a court of law and they are found guilty.

If you're a store owner, and riots break out... you SHOULD have the means to defend your business. When you've got a hundred or more violent people breaking their way in, a pistol with a 15 round magazine isn't much of a deterrent. (not that I advocate for the "Spray and Pray" method either)

If I may be permitted an example: Back in the late 60s, Baltimore had riots. I don't remember them, as I was too young. However, it was noted that the area known as "Little Italy" was left untouched, while the surrounding neighborhoods were destroyed.

Why was Little Italy spared? Because the business owners took up arms, and were willing and able to protect them. The rioters knew that if they attacked that area, there's a good chance they'd end up dead.

You'll also notice how ineffective the police are during the riots going on these days. The only thing they are protecting is each other.

Side note: Police SHOULD be held to a higher standard, simply because if they commit an act like the one that sparked this in the first place is a complete and utter betrayal of the trust and authority granted to them. They also shouldn't be put in protective custody after they are found guilty. Put them in Gen-Pop.
  
Spoofer
Super Regular
WMD Creator

P: 06/06/2020 13:19 EST
E: 06/06/2020 13:21 EST
    Like I said, we both have snapped at people in political debates. =p

Those weren't any of the talking points I vehemently objected to. We don't need to get into it again though, heh.

Fuck Billy Mitchell.
  
Mr. Walnuts
Daycare Manager
Pipey FlagCatcher

P: 06/06/2020 13:42 EST
   
Spoofer pontificated:
our ideologies are clear, but we neither flaunt them nor deliberately bring attention to them on these forums, for the most part.
This wasn’t always the case and, in fact, is a recent phenomenon – generally speaking. I’ve participated on a dozen or so forums over as many years, some political, some professional, some social, and a couple narrowed down to micro interests like this one. But, until a few years ago, some political viewpoint would always emerge in all of them to get checked for fleas, pee on the rug, scolded, bathed, and let out the back door. It never bugged me then and I will freely admit I never shied from the role of provocateur (two-handed shit stirrer) my own self.

But back then, you could learn something if you paid attention. There was actual discourse. Of course, you still had to understand that people were going to latch on to what fit their world view, some more tenaciously than others. Back then, you still had to be leery of the sources that formed the premises of arguments, but you typically were fact-checking for accuracy or bias. Now you have to completely discount entire sources that are devoted to misinformation. And it is sanctioned, proliferated, and validated under the banner of “alternative reality” like that was an actual fucking thing. Once this kind of crap pops up, you know there will be nothing resembling discussion. They won’t believe their lyin’ eyes.

That, in a nutshell, has stifled political discourse, in my opinion. And it is truly heart-breaking to me to discover just how much of our population is so unsophisticated. I never ever wanted to believe that. But it became a continuous occurrence to find myself arguing with people quoting fucking Russian troll farm memes as their authority. Worse, it has become normalized.

In the immortal words of the illustrious Long John Baldry: Don’t try to lay no boojy woojy on the King of Rock and Roll.
  
EmotionallyDisturbedParakeet
Super Regular
FatGuy With
A LittleGun

P: 06/06/2020 13:55 EST
E: 06/06/2020 13:57 EST
   
elf poo wrote:
When someone has a difference in political opinion, but you can put it aside and still find things about them to respect - for me - that does not exist with Muad. His sick and evil beliefs overshadow any other good he may have done. Even the worst serial killers in history treated their friends and family wonderfully. So fuck muadDib he is not missed.

edit - and its not just Jews. He thinks of black people as monkeys with inferior IQs.

No arguing there. That being the case, what was your impression of Wally?
  
EmotionallyDisturbedParakeet
Super Regular
FatGuy With
A LittleGun

P: 06/06/2020 14:00 EST
   
Walter
That, in a nutshell, has stifled political discourse, in my opinion. And it is truly heart-breaking to me to discover just how much of our population is so unsophisticated

Yes, and seems willful :/
  
Ignorant_Florist
Daycare Manager
Pipebomb Monkey

P: 06/06/2020 14:50 EST
   
Spoofer wrote:
Like I said, we both have snapped at people in political debates. =p
You'll note I did not deny that.

Fuck Billy Mitchell.
Fuck him yourself, you coward!

:p
  
elf poo
Super Regular
WMD Creator

P: 06/06/2020 16:30 EST
   
EmotionallyDisturbedParakeet wrote:
elf poo wrote:
When someone has a difference in political opinion, but you can put it aside and still find things about them to respect - for me - that does not exist with Muad. His sick and evil beliefs overshadow any other good he may have done. Even the worst serial killers in history treated their friends and family wonderfully. So fuck muadDib he is not missed.

edit - and its not just Jews. He thinks of black people as monkeys with inferior IQs.

No arguing there. That being the case, what was your impression of Wally?
I have a very short attention span and poor comprehension skills. Im not going to reveal my verbal SAT scores for that reason.

My point is, i rarely read anything about politics on this forum, unless its short and easy to understand. I never read Wally's posts on politics and dont know much about his viewpoints other than being conservative. In game he was a pleasure.

  
Prelude to Agony
Super Regular
Sniper Harassment
Duty

P: 06/07/2020 18:04 EST
   
-[IBSC]-iLluSiON- wrote:
I should have read those really long threads.

I found him to be intelligent. Avoided talking politics with him. But I suppose that is always where true colors are shown.
You didn't miss anything. That's not a testament to Wally either, just all the circumstances around it. I have no opinion on him.
  
EmotionallyDisturbedParakeet
Super Regular
FatGuy With
A LittleGun

P: 06/10/2020 07:13 EST
   
elf poo wrote:
EmotionallyDisturbedParakeet wrote:
elf poo wrote:
When someone has a difference in political opinion, but you can put it aside and still find things about them to respect - for me - that does not exist with Muad. His sick and evil beliefs overshadow any other good he may have done. Even the worst serial killers in history treated their friends and family wonderfully. So fuck muadDib he is not missed.

edit - and its not just Jews. He thinks of black people as monkeys with inferior IQs.

No arguing there. That being the case, what was your impression of Wally?
I have a very short attention span and poor comprehension skills. Im not going to reveal my verbal SAT scores for that reason.

My point is, i rarely read anything about politics on this forum, unless its short and easy to understand. I never read Wally's posts on politics and dont know much about his viewpoints other than being conservative. In game he was a pleasure.

You're probably a lot more sane because of it.
  
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