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[SHS]Hitz
Super Regular
Killer Scout

P: 04/25/2021 14:04 EST
    I was just sorting out a new clip for my youtube channel and I noticed something that looked very suspicious. One of my kills looked like I was locking on to my target through the wall and then jumping out to get an easy kill. It made me go "hmmm...." and I wouldn't be happy if I specced somebody doing the same thing. It would raise suspicions of that player hacking.

I guess the point I'm trying to make (in this current climate, where we've lost Soldi and there are claims of more cheaters to be found) is that we shouldn't be too quick to judge, based on a few isolated incidents with a player. And that includes me thinking others are cheating when I spec them. I'd hate to be part of (or victim of) an erroneous witch hunt.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZn7LNFJwwU
  
kyree
Super Regular
Killer Scout

P: 04/25/2021 14:14 EST
E: 04/25/2021 15:18 EST
    if I can beg to differ..there was no "snap"
there can only be so many places people can be on 2fort...you can fire a shot, especially if there are other snipers,or contestant medics, and probably hit one...AND it's a release reaction..<shrug>
buy a lottery ticket...
  
kyree
Super Regular
Killer Scout

P: 04/25/2021 14:36 EST
E: 04/25/2021 14:39 EST
    STILL waiting for this "ALLEGED" list btw!
not that I'm entitled, but why try to be like a fucking tabloid, girlfriend?
  
[SHS]Hitz
Super Regular
Killer Scout

P: 04/25/2021 14:51 EST
    straightcashhomo's list?  
Reckoner
Super Regular
Crack-Powered Capper

P: 04/25/2021 15:08 EST
    Let's say I'm playing against an engineer "Sevelho" or "Fluffo" / other regular engineers (trying my best not to name a certain hairy girl)... Or playing against PigSkin (demoman), who likes to detonate their bottom spiral or elevator pipe trap based on your footsteps or landing sound :o sometimes without having vision of enemy. You can use that against them too ^__^

The engineers I named usually build their dispensers and/or sentry guns in the same exact location. Sevelho really likes to build the dispenser trap near the Basement Resupply, to cover the elevator drop down area. Pop Quiz: "Where does Fluffo build their Sentry Gun?" :P

Even before the match has started sometimes we "just know". :o And when doing multiple runs to try and get the flag, I might do a back-step close to the dispenser, or already have primed a grenade or know where to aim with supernail gun.

In a 30 minute match you might see me do this back-step move or counter measure and sometimes you might not. >___< Sometimes if I haven't seen the flagroom in 10 minutes and I'm being chased, flanked etc. and I finally make it there with a nade and supernail gun in hand, I have sometimes "Chosen at random" where I will throw grenade and pre-fire the nails.

Is the sentry gun middle flagroom/on flag? Maybe the sentry gun is left/right/x of flag,... I guess I have about a 1 out of 4 chance. x___x When players "always seem to know" - then yeah, it's danger! Danger! High voltage. :o

I just demo record all my matches (I guess to make highlights at times and more)... <(^___^<) and always notice how bad I have been playing, jaja :p

I wonder... >__<
  
kyree
Super Regular
Killer Scout

P: 04/25/2021 15:14 EST
E: 04/25/2021 15:16 EST
   
[SHS]Hitz wrote:
straightcashhomo's list?
the self pleasuring "bridge goddess"?
  
Spoofer
Super Regular
WMD Creator

P: 04/25/2021 15:21 EST
   
Reckoner wrote:
then yeah, it's danger! Danger! High voltage. :o


Fire in the... Taco Bell.
  
Ignorant_Florist
Daycare Manager
Pipebomb Monkey

P: 04/25/2021 15:53 EST
   
[SHS]Hitz wrote:
I was just sorting out a new clip for my youtube channel and I noticed something that looked very suspicious. One of my kills looked like I was locking on to my target through the wall and then jumping out to get an easy kill. It made me go "hmmm...." and I wouldn't be happy if I specced somebody doing the same thing. It would raise suspicions of that player hacking.

I guess the point I'm trying to make (in this current climate, where we've lost Soldi and there are claims of more cheaters to be found) is that we shouldn't be too quick to judge, based on a few isolated incidents with a player. And that includes me thinking others are cheating when I spec them. I'd hate to be part of (or victim of) an erroneous witch hunt.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZn7LNFJwwU
You don't seriously think we're THAT quick on the trigger when a suspected cheat is involved, do you?

Respawn spam... cheap kills... maybe, IF the player in question has a history of it.

But cheating? Really?

Even that player I banned that was obviously speed-hacking was spec'd for a minute or three just to establish there was absolutely no doubt.
  
Ignorant_Florist
Daycare Manager
Pipebomb Monkey

P: 04/25/2021 15:54 EST
   
Spoofer wrote:
Reckoner wrote:
then yeah, it's danger! Danger! Will Robinson! :o
Fire in the... Taco Bell.
Fixed what you missed.
  
[SHS]Hitz
Super Regular
Killer Scout

P: 04/25/2021 16:07 EST
E: 04/25/2021 16:08 EST
    Reckoner, I just saw you RQ for the first time. I was speccing the player who was wiping the floor with you. He was top tier, God-like... top 0.1%, but had only a three month history on Drippy's, which made me suspicious enough to spec him. He was also trying his best not to use his shotgun up close (relying on grenades, which is my level...), which made me even more suspicious of him.

Then again, "erroneous witch hunts" (my own words in my OP) and all that...
  
Reckoner
Super Regular
Crack-Powered Capper

P: 04/25/2021 16:29 EST
    Yeah I got owned ^__^ I think he had conc aim too - let me check my demo.. :P Probably just a good player.

Also, took you long enough to see me RQ >__<
  
kyree
Super Regular
Killer Scout

P: 04/25/2021 16:42 EST
    Ya'll playing tfc when you could be watching The Pens and The Bruins? What's wrong with you? 🤔😂😂  
Reckoner
Super Regular
Crack-Powered Capper

P: 04/25/2021 16:43 EST
    https://drive.google.com/file/d/17PxaoT5BJ_g16WSx7AHwdsko-zb...
The sample size is way too small anyway :P Like 9 second clip in a longer match... >__< Maybe the handheld conc (bad jump from me by the way :o ) didn't conc the HW.
  
Prelude to Agony
Super Regular
Sniper Harassment
Duty

P: 04/25/2021 16:56 EST
   
kyree wrote:
Ya'll playing tfc when you could be watching The Pens and The Bruins? What's wrong with you? 🤔😂😂
Fuck the Penguins.
  
[SHS]Hitz
Super Regular
Killer Scout

P: 04/25/2021 17:07 EST
   
Reckoner wrote:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/17PxaoT5BJ_g16WSx7AHwdsko-zb...
The sample size is way too small anyway :P Like 9 second clip in a longer match... >__< Maybe the handheld conc (bad jump from me by the way :o ) didn't conc the HW.
Here's the same clip from his POV. He was in the conc radius, but it doesn't show him as being conced.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9Ao5nu5QKI
  
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