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gdi
P: 11/14/2021 09:51 EST
    why is it he does not get banned for building an SG more than once in the same match out side the enemy respawn. Asked him to stop he tells me to chill. If I did I would be banned.

How do you get an admin here when needed?

this took place on 11/14 about 8:45 Illinois time
  
Ignorant_Florist
Daycare Manager
Pipebomb Monkey

P: 11/14/2021 12:48 EST
E: 11/14/2021 12:51 EST
    Well, the date and time will help Drippy- look at the footage, but to point out something that was talked about some time ago....

You gave him enough time to build/upgrade it.... so you kinda get what you deserve.

But to answer your other question: Friend me up on Steam.... I'm more than happy to come in(assuming I'm home) and take a look at things if you think there's a problem.

Edit: There is also the !report command(available to everyone, even if gagged). That will send a report of the incident, plus be shown in the logs as to when the !report was filed.
  
Backalleybuttlove
Super Regular
Crack-Powered Capper

P: 11/14/2021 14:30 EST
    Which respawn? Sniper or 2nd floor

I think this falls under the "you let it happen" like with the teleporting with the flag exploit: you let the opposing team build a teleporter to your flag room is one thing and then they pull off the exploit. It's sort of on the nose to whine about the exploit.

I also think it's on the nose to whine about an sg built in your spawn. I literally saw a video someone posted here regarding the same thing. They were whining about someone building an SG in their sniper respawn and did nothing about it despite being a soldier and easily able to take it out.

As far as I know, detpacks are allowed in the 2nd floor respawn because the risk involved in planting them so I'm assuming SGs would also be allowed, at least in the 2nd floor respawn. Maybe Iggy can clarify if detpacks are also allowed in the sniper respawn?
  
[SHS]Hitz
Super Regular
Killer Scout

P: 11/14/2021 14:43 EST
    Yeah, your team allowed it to happen. It’s the same with a demoman setting a long-countdown det-pack right outside the main spawn exit… if you let it happen, then tough shit.

An SG outside the respawn just catches you out once… you then lob nades at it and destroy it next time you spawn. Easy.
  
gdi
P: 11/14/2021 17:53 EST
    It was not the sniper respawn. he built it twice. And we didn't let just do it. After the first one was killed we went for the flag and then he rebuilt again. Either way he should not be doing it. If your a medic and stand outside the spawn and infect someone you get banned same thing that team let you stand out there.  
Help
Super Regular
Crack-Powered Capper

P: 11/14/2021 18:23 EST
    It’s a technicality they allow. I agree it doesn’t make sense to allow SGs built outside a respawn when the rules are to protect newly spawned players. Their rationale is the team shouldn’t of allowed it to happen. This of course is a pretty weak excuse as this usually only happens when there are like 8 players on the server. At which point, it’s fairly simple to do without even running into the opposition. But it tis what it tis.  
Ignorant_Florist
Daycare Manager
Pipebomb Monkey

P: 11/14/2021 20:42 EST
   
Backalleybuttlove wrote:
Which respawn? Sniper or 2nd floor

I think this falls under the "you let it happen" like with the teleporting with the flag exploit: you let the opposing team build a teleporter to your flag room is one thing and then they pull off the exploit. It's sort of on the nose to whine about the exploit.

I also think it's on the nose to whine about an sg built in your spawn. I literally saw a video someone posted here regarding the same thing. They were whining about someone building an SG in their sniper respawn and did nothing about it despite being a soldier and easily able to take it out.

As far as I know, detpacks are allowed in the 2nd floor respawn because the risk involved in planting them so I'm assuming SGs would also be allowed, at least in the 2nd floor respawn. Maybe Iggy can clarify if detpacks are also allowed in the sniper respawn?
Detpacks IN the Respawn is a "no no".... despite it requiring time to set. Outside of it is a different situation... Outside is allowed. Inside, not so much.

That's pretty much the same logic used for SGs. Outside you can likely get away with. Inside.... nope, even I have gotten punished for that one.

And for the record, no one else was on at the time I put the SG up.... but as soon as someone else joined.... I got kicked for it(and yes, I count myself lucky that it wasn't a ban).
  
Shemmie
Super Regular
Deadly Dispenser
Man

P: 11/15/2021 00:39 EST
    Switch to demo.
Throw MIRV.
Throw other MIRV.
Move on with day.

If he's building SGs outside your spawn, your team has bigger problems.
  
EmotionallyDisturbedParakeet
Super Regular
FatGuy With
A LittleGun

P: 11/15/2021 04:33 EST
    Want me to beat him up   
Backalleybuttlove
Super Regular
Crack-Powered Capper

P: 11/15/2021 04:57 EST
   
Ignorant_Florist wrote:
Backalleybuttlove wrote:
Which respawn? Sniper or 2nd floor

I think this falls under the "you let it happen" like with the teleporting with the flag exploit: you let the opposing team build a teleporter to your flag room is one thing and then they pull off the exploit. It's sort of on the nose to whine about the exploit.

I also think it's on the nose to whine about an sg built in your spawn. I literally saw a video someone posted here regarding the same thing. They were whining about someone building an SG in their sniper respawn and did nothing about it despite being a soldier and easily able to take it out.

As far as I know, detpacks are allowed in the 2nd floor respawn because the risk involved in planting them so I'm assuming SGs would also be allowed, at least in the 2nd floor respawn. Maybe Iggy can clarify if detpacks are also allowed in the sniper respawn?
Detpacks IN the Respawn is a "no no".... despite it requiring time to set. Outside of it is a different situation... Outside is allowed. Inside, not so much.

That's pretty much the same logic used for SGs. Outside you can likely get away with. Inside.... nope, even I have gotten punished for that one.

And for the record, no one else was on at the time I put the SG up.... but as soon as someone else joined.... I got kicked for it(and yes, I count myself lucky that it wasn't a ban).
So it sounds like a detpack and sg outside the 2nd floor respawn is okay since that's technically not within the confines of the respawn while inside the sniper respawn wouldn't be allowed since that is "the respawn"?

As far as your kick goes, was this an autokick? Like there's some sort of algorithm? I'm assuming no since I've seen people post videos of this being done, so the kick must be manual.

  
Ignorant_Florist
Daycare Manager
Pipebomb Monkey

P: 11/15/2021 08:21 EST
    Wasn't an auto-kick..... the first person who joined after I'd set that up, just happened to be an Admin. They spawned, got killed from the SG.... and I got kicked for a rule violation(cheap kill from freshly spawned player).

Like I said, I counted myself lucky it wasn't a ban, because one would have been justified.
  
Maddog
Super Regular
Crack-Powered Capper

P: 11/15/2021 13:46 EST
E: 11/15/2021 13:53 EST
    OMG I built this sg in the 2nd floor pointing towards spawn door easily to take out, plus there was no one on when I built this and when the person came on who complain about this there was like me, him and Kurt on, which is kind of a messing around moment. yes I was allow to rebuild this sg in a different position as I was having a laugh with Kurt.

I'm sorry you were upset about this but again it was easy to kill the sg.
When there is a few players on messing around stops and I try to play properly and with in the rules.
As a result I have received a ban again lol.

Drippy please unban me I will not do this again and promise to be a good doggy, I need my fix and rq please. hehe
  
gg#4
Super Regular
Killer Scout

P: 11/15/2021 16:12 EST
    You got banned for that?

I thought it was allowed under the detpack rule
  
[SHS]Hitz
Super Regular
Killer Scout

P: 11/15/2021 16:15 EST
    #JusticeForMaddog  
Spoofer
Super Regular
WMD Creator

P: 11/15/2021 16:29 EST
   
gg#4 wrote:
You got banned for that?

I thought it was allowed under the detpack rule


Same.
  
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