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Well said, and I agree with most of it.
| I don’t care about the Epstein files personally. | |
The unfortunate legacy of the progressive Left is that they exhausted our capacity for outrage. Reflexively, the pushback from the Right came in the form of "If it doesn't affect me in my day-to-day, then I don't give a flying fuck about it." And I understand that response, really. But I think we need to meet back in the middle again and actually have shared core principles worth defending whether they affect us directly or not.
If you have the time, check out clips from Tucker Carlson and Dave Smith at last weekend's Turning Points conference. When the U.S. is involved in the slaughter and mutilation of tens of thousands of children, when a massive child pedophile ring is kept under wraps to protect politicians — and we largely ignore them both — that's bad for our soul.
If a progressive Democrat can scream from their gated community about the "racists" who don't want their suburban town rapidly flooded with impoverished immigrants from wildly different cultures... If a conservative can lose their shit over an abortion that happens 2,000 miles away... then I hope we can find some capacity to care about the massive horrors that occur on a geopolitical scale with the help of our government or the West in general.
Epstein, as we know, isn't just about Trump. It's about child abuse, money, control, war, murder, censorship, colonialism, empire, justice, transparency and our lack of sovereignty.
(EDIT) I've seen stories like this every single day for the past 21 months. https://x.com/gazanotice/status/1945050501764059321 | |
| level1nobody wrote:
Well said, and I agree with most of it.
| I don’t care about the Epstein files personally. | |
The unfortunate legacy of the progressive Left is that they exhausted our capacity for outrage. Reflexively, the pushback from the Right came in the form of "If it doesn't affect me in my day-to-day, then I don't give a flying fuck about it." And I understand that response, really. But I think we need to meet back in the middle again and actually have shared core principles worth defending whether they affect us directly or not.
If you have the time, check out clips from Tucker Carlson and Dave Smith at last weekend's Turning Points conference. When the U.S. is involved in the slaughter and mutilation of tens of thousands of children, when a massive child pedophile ring is kept under wraps to protect politicians — and we largely ignore them both — that's bad for our soul.
If a progressive Democrat can scream from their gated community about the "racists" who don't want their suburban town rapidly flooded with impoverished immigrants from wildly different cultures... If a conservative can lose their shit over an abortion that happens 2,000 miles away... then I hope we can find some capacity to care about the massive horrors that occur on a geopolitical scale with the help of our government or the West in general.
Epstein, as we know, isn't just about Trump. It's about child abuse, money, control, war, murder, censorship, colonialism, empire, justice, transparency and our lack of sovereignty.
(EDIT) I've seen stories like this every single day for the past 21 months. https://x.com/gazanotice/status/1945050501764059321 | |
Since he stopped getting paid to spew propaganda at fox I’ve come to actually like Tucker Carlson. Never in a million years thought I’d say that.
I don’t know how much of the Palestinian slaughter we can pin specifically on Trump. From listening to professor mearsheimer, Israel has insane influence via lobbying over US presidential candidates, and he and I are targeting for being anti semites for pointing that out.
Israel is going to continue the ethnic cleansing as they please whether Trump is on board or not. They’re going to keep getting our weapons and any candidates in congress or president who say anything against that will be successfully undermined.
I’m ignorant of the child pedophile ring but at least they probably drive slowly through school zones.
I’ve seen clips of the turning point conference. Can investigate per your word.
Carlson is certain of things I’m not certain of. UFOs being spirits or something. Ok.
Trump is supplying new weapons to Ukraine. I do believe this is to push Putin to the negotiating table. You can have Donbas and Ukraine won’t be in nato, but if you’re not gonna stop shooting well we will add another million dead Russians to nato’s cv, even if it costs another two million Ukrainians. Battlefield calculus I guess.
Xeno shut the fuck up and honestly the real reason you’re still gagged is I promised drippy I would behave as hard as I am capable if you just never talked again in game.
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I agree about the rage fatigue from the left. I sometimes think the progressive left would rather lose elections and be mad for four years versus moderating their message and retaining real power.
The Trump supporters are upset about a mere few things, if any, and wouldn’t change their vote if another election were held today. | |
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I don’t like the edicts against homosexuality and feel hatred towards my fellow Christians when they talk about that in church. Hope their kids become the biggest faggots possible fucking losers. But I still cling to Jesus and know the Bible says homosexuality is wrong. I don’t have to agree. I’d be worse off without Jesus like literally homicidal. Fuck am I even talking about shit the fuck up. Shut. | |
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| EmotionallyDisturbedParakeet wrote:
I don’t know how much of the Palestinian slaughter we can pin specifically on Trump. | |
Sure, but it's not about pinning Israel on Trump. (Biden was also terrible on Israel but he was less "mean tweets" about it, so it's cool.) It's just about talking about it, not being 100% silent on it out in public. Even I'll admit, it's significantly difficult for the general public to affect foreign policy decisions, but it can happen. Most normies have no fucking clue what's really going on over there. It's not that they've heard all the viewpoints and made an intelligent decision; it's that the info they're receiving is pure garbage. They just need a nudge in the right direction.
For instance, I remember the Hannibal Directive discussion here a year ago and those who called me a lunatic for even suggesting it... Well here we are now in the future and we know it fucking happened. Primary sources admitted it. How about that? The lunatic was right... again. Why are my sources always so fucking right and their sources so damn wrong?
| Israel is going to continue the ethnic cleansing as they please whether Trump is on board or not. They’re going to keep getting our weapons and any candidates in congress or president who say anything against that will be successfully undermined. | |
We do reside in the belly of the beast, yes. But outside of the Five Eyes nations and Germany (they're clearly still sorry about that whole thing), sentiment is changing and citizens all over the world are sympathizing with the Palestinian cause. Spain and Ireland passed resolutions to sanction Israel on the order of boycotts and embargoes. There are, at this point, 20 countries uniting to stop Israel's genocide of Gaza. (Oh, they're proposing moving all Gazans into what will be a concentration camp on the ruins of Rafah, with no option to leave... So I guess we can call it a holocaust now?) | |
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| EmotionallyDisturbedParakeet wrote:
I agree about the rage fatigue from the left. I sometimes think the progressive left would rather lose elections and be mad for four years versus moderating their message and retaining real power. | |
I'm thinking from a certain point of view, the woke movement accomplished what it was meant to...
Historically, whenever the Left and the Right have united on the basis of class, a deux ex machina came in to save the elites. MLK and RFK, assassinated prior to the Poor People's March. Fred Hampton, killed after forming the Rainbow Coalition.
And you know when wokism ramped up? https://x.com/Ne_pas_couvrir/status/1817580667905224911 | |
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| EnginGhent wrote:
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Promises not kept
❌ No new wars
❌ Not getting involved in Ukraine v Russia
❌ Reducing spending / debt / deficit
❌ Releasing the Epstein files
❌ Hiring “the best” (McMahon, Hedgesth)
What are the reasons to continue to support DJT? | |
DJT is the best president in 200 years!
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He’s so good that you needed ChatGPT to find things “accomplished”?
Did you even read the summary before you posted it? 1 of the 10 is literally “stopping an app”.
What’s wrong with you? | |
Summery, 77.3 million MAGA supporters are very happy. Never get tired of winning! | |
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| LGMB95033 wrote:
Summery, 77.3 million MAGA supporters are very happy. Never get tired of winning!
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Summary. Although it is quite summery outside.
DJT did say he loves the poorly educated. Seems like they return the sentiment.
If it wasn't obvious LG, I'm calling you a moron. | |
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Poorly educated people have been attending the LA protests, "no kings" & other protests. 2025 has been embarrassing for average democrat citizens who are upset that have attended these gatherings. When attempting to balance my views, I blame Democrat news outlets for literally missing so many potential issues & missed opportunities.
Even if you give random protestors the benefit of the doubt that they're not paid to attend or where blindly provided talking points + preprinted signs MANY were completely delusional people.
There were high numbers of people that were convinced the administration were going to completely shutdown medicaid simply because DOGE said they would look into that department next. Same thing with Social Security, there were huge numbers of people being told that Social Security would be completely shutdown which was a lie. Look at the signs people were holding & responses they gave when asked on camera.
There have been some wildly embarrassing moments caught on camera across America & they were mostly done by left wing democrat citizens. Not cherry picking peaceful events on CNN or the worst-possible events from FOX but rather independent or random people with a phone at protests. Crowds of people believing the entire event is peaceful when a few hundred feet away terrible violence is breaking out. The lack of awareness & delusions held together by pure ignorance of 2025 facts OR American history for people at protest events scares the shit out of me. | |
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There are 20-30 year old's talking about how communism might not be a bad thing to try or talking about how open borders might be a great thing for the United States. These types of people have clearly never lived in another country & clearly are not interested in educating themselves in how other countries that feature these traits have operated and what such outcomes have lead towards.
Emotional people fueled by assumptions, unable or unwilling to watch a documentary about how their "ideas" have translated into unexpected changes/consequences when other countries have tried that.
Society is cooked once deepfake AI videos become more widespread. It would be healthy & refreshing if more MAGA supporters showed how fucking pissed they are about Trump's Epstein comments given how much his administration & Trump himself has mislead people into believing a shocking client list would be revealed. | |
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To think if we ever see the Epstein files are we ever going to believe anything on it? Proof came out his cell footage was edited, but thats not any grounds from a legal standpoint.
I always thought Trump was elected into office to classify the list.
For me its a matter of restoring faith that law and justice are meant for everyone, not just the poor and middleclass. This is what separates 1st world countries from dictatorships, among other things.
Not releasing and prosecuting just strengthens the narrative that the rich and powerful can do anything they want. What if these victims were your sister, your mother, your friend? Why are we advocating for protecting pedophiles and pimps? | |
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I want them released and I want to watch the elite, rich and famous burn for it. IDGAF who is on the list, they all need to fall. Scorched fucking earth....
In terms of 'conservative silence', I'd say most are satisfied, so there's no real need to say anything. And, of course they're not going to come here to bitch about things they dislike about the current admin. There's zero difference between conservatives now and liberals when Biden was in office...none of the usual liberals were complaining here about Biden's fuck ups, and don't tell me any of you thought Biden was the perfect President either.
The President's have been disappointing as fuck for years. Zero chance that any executive is going to be 100% solid, ever. Maybe when both parties come to their senses (yeah, right) and come back toward the middle...maybe then we'll get that utopian candidate. | |
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| [IOD]Snips wrote:
There are 20-30 year old's talking about how communism might not be a bad thing to try or talking about how open borders might be a great thing for the United States. These types of people have clearly never lived in another country & clearly are not interested in educating themselves in how other countries that feature these traits have operated and what such outcomes have lead towards.
Emotional people fueled by assumptions, unable or unwilling to watch a documentary about how their "ideas" have translated into unexpected changes/consequences when other countries have tried that. | |
Sure, but these people are desperate. Consider what it takes for a younger adult to grow up in perhaps the most (for better or worse) capitalistically-propagandized nation the world has ever seen and then be so bereft of hope that they consider the authoritarianism of China.
Without intending to be accusatory, I notice you tend to look at societal issues from the perspective of "people are big dumb idiots" while there is so much blame to place on the very intentional circumstances that remove a person's desire to educate or better themselves. Western countries, especially the U.S. have dedicated unimaginable amounts of resources into brainwashing citizens into loving the financial system that requires inflation, routine depressions and a dedicated poverty class in order to function. | |
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A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky, dangerous animals and you know it. | |
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Well the core issue is healthy mental practices for youth. Western countries have terrible physical and mental health compared to other countries. Google says the human brain reaches max size in early adolescence, a full brain development continues until the mid-to-late 20s.
Most of us gamers had dialup internet in our teenage years. Sure we watched too much tv, but as kids we allowed ourselves to get bored and reflected on life. We did NOT have ipads as an 8year old staring at a screen constantly. I think our brains developed better without phones/tablets compared to most kids today. Young children shouldn't own tablets/phones constantly or even be allowed to use them at school. Parents have grown exceptionally lazy during this information age.
The internet & social media companies are structured for addictive repetitive engagement. It should be obvious that kids typically unable to hold a thought & having the attention of a butterfly is the end result. Have seen enough videos showing kids in Korea and other countries having much better mental discipline along with better grades.
Shortcuts are rewarded, stealing ideas from co-workers or taking credit from AI without knowing basic concepts. I don't have a choice but to gauge my perspective of strangers unless I sample unbiased polling from youtube videos spread-out across the country. Too many people assume homelessness isn't a national issue UNLESS they see it inside their own town. Or that the opinions of their own neighborhood appropriately represent the nation, it takes more work to try to feel out such issues.
Relying on paid news networks to learn the pulse of what American people overall are feeling/fearing would be like watching soda commercials to guess which can of pop gives you the whitest teeth. Politicians lie & twist perspectives constantly but mainstream news is even worse. | |
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